Abu Ghraib, the Stanford experiment, and the problem of evil

What combination of environment and personality prompts ordinarily "good" people to do horrible, evil things? That must be just about the most vexing theological question of all, since we're still asking it after two world wars and a century marked by a whole lot of violence. In 1971, the famous Stanford prison experiment illustrated the disturbing speed with which normal people can become sadistic thugs.

I bring this up because Philip Zimbardo, the psychologist who ran the Stanford experiment, has been interviewed by Wired about what Abu Ghraib taught us about humans' capacity for evil. It's the same old story of what happens when people are given authority without accountability:

...in the Stanford prison study, I was saying [to the student guards], "You have to be powerful to prevent further rebellion." I tell them, "You're not allowed, however, to use physical force." By default, I allow them to use psychological force. In five days, five prisoners are having emotional breakdowns.

The situational forces that were going on in [Abu Ghraib] -- the dehumanization, the lack of personal accountability, the lack of surveillance, the permission to get away with anti-social actions -- it was like the Stanford prison study, but in spades.

Those sets of things are found any time you really see an evil situation occurring, whether it's Rwanda or Nazi Germany or the Khmer Rouge.

The video slideshow that accompanies the interview is worth watching, if you can stomach the extremely disturbing imagery. It's one thing to believe, as a Christian, that even the best human beings must struggle against a sin nature, and are capable of doing awful things. But it's quite another to look at photos of normal-looking, they-could-attend-my-church people laughing at the human misery they've wrought. Truly sobering.

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Anger comes to mind and body. Yes we are to love those who hurt us and our families, but that is way to far. I was an MP for many years and find the photo's alarming and kind of hoping that they really didn't happen. But, alast they did and for the ones who initiated and carried out these crimes against other humans; what do we do with them? We put them in a place where they can't do that again and at the same time comfort the victims and give them assistance. Yes we do have to account for the criminal acts of those who were there to serve and protect. We can't be like them in return, but incarceration for long periods of time and continued counseling may help them to understand just what they did, not only to the individual, but everyone involved in that conflict.
even little babies have been known to scratch the eyes of other little babies . It does not take a bible believing mother long to see a sin nature even in their dearly beloved little infants. They have temper tantrums they , Only care about them selves .


the bible tells us very plainly Jesus died for US the wicked .

do you want to know who first financialy sponcered the nazi Joesph Mangalia's medical experments ? The rockerfeller foundation !
Some of the worse hateful language and acts against american citizens was by the united states supreme court judges with forced sterialization's.
are we shocked by mans inhumanity to man ? No what is shocking is
Jesus died for us the wicked.




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