From Generation to Generation

Last Sunday my regular Sunday school class was looking kind of slim; it was mothers day and the university graduation had happened the day before, meaning many students had skipped town already. Instead of doing our usual formal study, we sat around a table with coffee and engaged in some non-directed chatter.  We talked as you tend to with such a group: told stories, told about what we learned from our experiences. After a little while, I was struck by the range of experiences and ages present.

One of our members was there for the first time after giving birth to her first child. Her mother was sitting nearby, holding the baby. Two other couples who had kids around my age reassured my friend that her baby was totally normal, and her parenting techniques were fine, and delivered parenting wisdom.  One of our pastors joined after a while, he’s been married for less than a year.  He told us about how earlier that week he had performed his first outdoor marriage ceremony, and his wife helped him get over his anxiety by reminding him to be humble. I was mostly quiet (hard to believe for those who know me) but learned a lot of things.

We talked about worship leading, and how sometimes a service that you thought was mediocre, from behind a guitar or a pulpit or from the perspective of things running smoothly, really touched someone else.  We talked about the way God’s spirit works through our own weakness.

I realized after this conversation that I would have missed so much richness if I had been in a singles group or a twenties and thirties group. Even though I don’t have any children and don’t plan to anytime soon, I was glad to be a part of a discussion about infants, I learned things that I might use some day, and I learned about the lives of those people.  More importantly, had I missed that moment, I would have missed the wisdom from people who have walked with God much longer than me. I really value these intergenerational relationships that I have at church. I worry that others are missing out on these opportunities by only spending time with their peers.

Of course, one anecdote isn’t enough to motivate an overhaul in church structure, but here is what became clear to me from this experience: having relationships with people at different places in life helps me prepare better for transitions, and it gives me a broader view of my own problems.  Talking about my friend’s baby didn’t make me feel bad about being single and childless (if anything I was grateful that my life wasn’t changing so radically right now). It made me feel grateful to be a part of a community that supports and encourages each other regardless of where they are in life. And talking about other people’s lives and families made my anxiety about finishing my semester papers seem less earth-shattering.

How has intergenerational community enriched your spiritual life?  Would you leave your smaller demographic study groups (single women, pre-teens, whatever) at church for a intergenerational one?

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I think intergenerational fellowship and worship is at the heart of the church. Too often, our churches become an umbrella organization over many sub-churches sectioned off by age, roles, etc. While this does meet particular needs well, we must always remember to also be intentional about intergenerational interaction. Fuller Seminary's Youth Institute has a lot of good resources on the church and the importance of intergenerational relationships (http://fulleryouthinstitute.or.... It is definitely not EASY to be a church that is intentional about intergenerational interaction, but it IS a clear reflection of the diversity of the body of Christ.
"Of course, one anecdote isn’t enough to motivate an overhaul in church structure..."

The difference is that tons and tons of people are having this same experience and the epiphany you wrote about. This *will* lead to the overhauling of church structure nearly everywhere as the ghettos of singles or youth "ministry" will disappear, yielding to a holistic approach to "doing church".
This is a tough one for me. I have a lot of friends and mentors who stretch across generations at my church. But in the end my wife and I picked our current church because it has a bunch of young married couples and there's a good small group ministry for support.

The five couples in our group range in age and time married. Plus two couples have recently had kids. In terms of young couples, it's a fairly diverse group. I learn from those who have been married longer or those who have kids. And I hope others in the group can learn from us. I feel like I get far more out of spending time with them, then I would be a more mixed age group. We're just all closer to the same spot in life.
Jerod, I've been thinking more about this comment lately, and I think what you overlook the fact that as a straight, married person, your ability to access this group of people who are best performing the cultural ideal is a kind of privilege not accessible to everyone. That's great that you have that experience, but are there people who might not be able to?
In the end it's really just a difference in preference person by person. I do agree there are people who miss out on certain opportunities by either not having access or intentionally ignoring to participate in something intergenerational.

I have interactions and conversations with folks of all ages and backgrounds not only in my church, but in my everyday life as well. But for this time in my life, I get a lot of spiritual nourishment and life education from my small group. Yes we're technically not intergenerational, but we're not all the same either.
I have to concur with Jerod on this one. As a 31 yar old single/never married, I have found intergenerational worship to be both a blessing and, while not necessarily a curse, at least a source of frustration. I have been greatly blessed by the older folks at my church, many of whom have taken me under their wing and treated me as a daughter/granddaughter. Since my parents are not believers and my only believing grandparent is in a nursing home, and not aware of what's going on around her, the wisdom and care of these elders is a big help when struggles or questions in the faith come up.

Having said that, some of of those struggles and questions are unique to being a 31 year old single. With no other singles close to my age in the church, it can become a very lonely existence. I have tried to reach out to the younger moms, many of whom have children in the sunday school and VBS classes I teach. Some have reached back, many have not. Why? I'm not sure.

Should intergenerational worship be the model for how we do this thing called church? Yes, probably. But how do we do that and still be purposeful about including those who don't fit neatly into any of our categories? What if your not a youth? A young married? A young parent? A parent of a teen? A senior? What if your somewhere in the middle? I'd be interested to hear ideas/experiences from others who have had succesful intergenerational churches/worship experiences?
I think making intergenerational community the norm helps with these problems rather than perpetuate them. What made the experience I wrote about so helpful was that it did not matter that I was single and most of the others around me were married. The things we were sharing about came out of our personal life experiences but were relevant to everyone. If people didn't think of themselves as part of a demographic group, but focused instead on what we all share, perhaps your experience would be less frustrating. Especially for those of us who aren't in the majority (I'm nearly 26 and unmarried, for example) it's better to be seen as a human than as a SINGLE or a SENIOR or a YOUTH. All these terms I think separate groups from the "regular" people, and I think that's the source of your frustration more than the presence of a variety of people.
Of course, dealing with people who have different experience and made different choices will always be a challenge, but most things worth doing are hard.
i believe it's all about balance. there are issues, concerns and needs that are better discussed within one's peer group or even your closest circle of friends in church. but that does'nt mean that you only fellowship with those within your sphere. as bethany pointed out, there is a great benefit or blessing to mingling or even getting into deeper interaction with those outside your demographic. and i think this is the desire of our Lord Jesus. the church is supposed to be able to bridge the gap (generational, social etc) among us. thus says Paul, "there is neither jew, gentile, women, men, slave or free.." or going further...no youth nor singles nor young adults, married with children, divorced etc...but we are all in Christ"

thanks bethany for sharing and though you believe this may not cause any major overhaul church structure, many of us who have read this will begin to rethink our fellowship in a more dynamic way.

thank you and have a blessed day!
Personally, I can't stand being segregated into various groups all the time. I think I realized it when I started college; after spending all week with 18-22 year olds, I didnt want to go to church to be lumped in with more of the same. That church was good about making Sunday school classes focused on topics or books. It allowed people to mix up according to what they wanted to study, instead of how old they are. Yay for older peoples' perspectives! Something else I liked was that during the services we frequently broke into prayer groups with whoever was nearby. You might be with people from any stage of life, and it was a good time to offer encouragement for situations youve faced and be encouraged by people wiser than you. Now that Ive graduated and moved back home, Im at a church that divides everyone by age or gender. Fun. If nothing else, can the American church please abolish the use of the term "Singles Group"?!
You are so right. The early church met from house to house daily and enjoyed intergenerational common meals. No wonder their roots grew so deep and they were able to withstand persecution. First Corinthians indicates that the Lord's supper was more of a simple, shared meal as well. These intergenerational fellowship times are invaluable. When I first met the Lord I was part of a potluck group that met every Sunday afternoon after church to share a meal, fellowship, enjoy each other and enjoy the Lord. I think that's where all the real discipleship and ministry happened. With that said I still believe there is a place for a youth group or a senior's group...it's just human nature. But if there is no intergenerational fellowship as a base, we are just isolated islands of age groups.
The church I attend is intergenerational. When worship time comes, we don't section off into 'childrens church' , 'teens church' etc

I have thoroughly enjoyed it and it is a challenge to listen and talk to someone with whom I dont always see eye to eye, or that I may have difficulty 'relating to'.
I'm old and just turned six with a zero, but love to be around anyone who loves to talk about Jesus. They say I talk to much, I say God gives me a lot to talk about and to listen too. I taught classes in discipleship for over six years at a local church and had both young and old in the class. You soon realize that no matter how many times you read the bible, or contemplate it's meanings, someone young or old can come up with a new twist to what you are talking about. We never stop learning and to be in a intergererational church is a very good place to be as it does bring many to the table so to speak. Remember never stop learning no matter wheather you are in a small church or a big one, then tell someone about the hope we have in Jesus and bring them along to the table. In God's Grace John

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