Prayer Meeting

Here's the video:

Anecdote time: I attended a small group session in high school. It was about twenty teenage boys and a leader. During prayer time we went around and offered our requests,which the leader concisely wrote down. He then assigned each person a prayer request and literally told us to keep it short and to the point.

He, after all, had an agenda to get to.

And to turn it around on myself: I often pray in quick lists. It's a great way to order my thoughts. I also recognize how stifling it is to spiritual growth, but seriously, it's a lot easier coming to God with a list of "fix this, fix that" things than to sit and listen.

And to play dissenting voice for a bit: is praying in such a way necessarily a bad thing?

Other thoughts?

HT: Scotteriology.

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Just as there are different types of conversation with friends, so in prayer. Some conversations are in passing, e.g., asking a friend to pick up a book for you at the library. Other conversations are longer and slower, e.g., sitting down over a cup of coffee to share life stories. What makes the video 'funny' is that it mixes these two in a way that we intuitively know is wrong.

Both types--and everything in between on the continuum--are good and necessary, but they require their own time. One must not be substituted for the other.
Prayer is good. But there are other ways that can be a bit more inclusive. Asking people to pray their requests and the asking others to pray for them often gets us away from the lists and to the point of what people really want requests. The other issue with request driven prayer is that it tends to be very inward focused or "my aunt's mother's sister has an ingrown toenail". It is not that ingrown toenails shouldn't be prayed for, but especially when dealing with teens, introducing them to more strategic prayer (specifically praying through a schedule for church leaders, government, etc.), evangelistic prayer, scripture based prayer or more worship based prayer really can affect the way that they approach prayer throughout the rest of their christian lives.
Adam: right on. I still remember the first time someone encouraged me to pray through a few psalms, it opened up my prayer life.

It seems like you've thought about this a lot, do you have any particular experiences that stand out to you as being foundational to your understanding of prayer?
Prayer Summits have most affected my understanding of prayer. I have been to quite a few. Basically they are three or four days away with no schedule other than prayer. Usually has two or three facilitators to help guide as the spirit leads and another 4 to 6 person listening team that meets with the facilitators a couple times a day for feedback.

This type of gathering (I think it works best with around 50 or 60 people) really give people a chance to build community, getting past some of the hindrances to prayer and seek out direction. I have most often done them with Pastors and Para-church leaders in Chicago. But many groups of business leaders or intercessors or single church prayer summits can be done well. Certainly not the only format for "real prayer" but one that I have found especially helpful.
Chris.
Terrific youtube find.

i was just convicted of this during my morning and I was thinking about how long it had been since I had a "conversation" with God.

I frequently limit prayers to either a sentence or a word when I'm in a small group. For a few reasons:

1. It limits the temptation to have "the best prayer."
2. It opens up the doors for people who otherwise wouldn't open their mouths for fear of sounding inelegant.
3. I keeps people focused.
4. The prayer time usually lasts longer than with, "eh, pray as long as you want" prayers because people are happy to contribute multiple times to the prayer.

One word prayers are interesting - I highly recommend them, especially for novice prayers.
Those are excellent reasons wezlo. I'm a big fan of short prayers too, mainly for your point number 1.
In my experience once you can teach people to pray a single thought and then asking that no one change the subject until everyone has had a chance to pray if they feel led about that thought, the whole tenor of group pray changes. You can start really hearing from God because everyone is focusing on one thing and a sense of slowness is allowed. My biggest pet peeve about group prayer is the person that prays, "bless the government, the leaders of the church, all those that are sick, every request that has been lifted up today and all those that have not. Amen" There isn't anywhere left to go after that. Then what often happens is that the group leaders keep shortening the time allowed for prayer because, "we just don't seem to need more time for prayer."
There's value in giving that kind of instruction for prayer. How many times have we been in a situation where toenails are prayed for (as Adam mentioned)? This gets you out of toenails & onto a specific request. Early intercessory prayer - nothing wrong about that!

His agenda is another issue, but we've probably all been guilty of that at some point in our lives, yes?

It's a great way to get youth started. Praying through the Psalms is wonderful, but sometimes even adults can't grasp that, so doing that type of intercessory prayer can be a good thing.
I love this!!! It is so funny!! But drives the point home!!! How sad .....

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