Q&A Brent Laytham

Brent Laytham is Professor of Theology and Ethics at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, and editor of the new book God Does Not...: Entertain, Play Matchmaker, Hurry, Demand Blood, Cure Every Illness. This book follows a 2004 book he also edited: God Is Not ...: Religious, Nice, "One of Us," An American, A Capitalist.

What is the background of these two books, and what is their goal?

Five of my friends came to North Park University over the course of the 2002-03 academic year to give talks that punctured a caricature of God from church or popular culture. I thought up the theme because our campus theme that year focused on the question Who is God? As the campus talked about and planned for that theme, I remember thinking that's not a question that we ask with a blank slate. As followers of Jesus Christ, we've met God face-to-face. So I designed the talks to demonstrate that asking who God is always requires us to also state who God isn't. Those talks became the basis for the first book, along with an introduction and concluding chapter that I wrote. Though North Park didn't have funding for another round of talks, I did have 6 more friends, so we did another book.

Why are these caricatures of God so persistent in North America?

Caricatures of God are persistent everywhere, not just in North America. The human penchant for idolatry runs deep and strong. That said, most of the caricatures that this new book tries to explode are what happens when a thin and unimaginative theology becomes the unwitting accomplice of principalities with a benevolent face. After all, who doesn't want to be healthy, to be safe, to be loved, to be happy? We all do, and in the end the Easter message promises that we shall receive all these things in abundance. But on the near side of resurrection Jesus offers us his cross to bear. Here in America, though, the cross doesn't sell nearly as well as health, security, romance and entertainment. So the principalities step in: medicine offers to make us well, the military promises to keep us safe, the mythos of romance promises true love, and Hollywood gives us happily ever after. Each of these offers is a caricature of the real thing, but our hunger is so deep that we easily settle for the impostor, failing to notice that the caricature of health that we embrace comes with a caricature deity, that the caricature of security we accept includes a caricature deity, etc.

Is there a danger some readers will react to this book by thinking, 'Well I guess God isn't as involved in my life and in our world as I thought'?  How does your closing chapter on God as three persons address this, and how can the Trinity keep us from having too static a view of who God is and what God does?

I actually think that readers of the earlier chapters will be quite sure that God is involved, since none of my coauthors say "God does not" without also claiming "but God does...." What God does, however, is not quite as predictable as our cultural caricatures. As Joel Shuman puts it, there is a 'wild faithfulness' about God's relation to the world. We can trust that, but we certainly cannot tame it, nor turn it to our self-chosen and self-serving ends. I wrote the final chapter to try to indicate how what God does and who God is are perfectly integrated. Whereas a Sunday School level theology usually tells us that God is triunethe Father, Son and Holy Spirit it may leave us thinking that these three persons are a kind of heavenly committee that eventually decided to create the world, and then later to redeem it. I try to show that who God is is already an activity of giving and receiving love. Therefore the loving acts of making and mending the world turn out to be perfectly in character with who God is.

Read an excerpt from "God Does Not..."

Login to comment

Comments (4)

Ooh I'd be interested to hear about the God who doesn't demand blood. As far as I can tell, our God, unfortunately, does :-(
then you'll be interested to read Chapter 2!
You know in the old testament how wars were fought and how God did not tolerate many things we humans did, water comes to mind for me. Then in the new testament things changed a little and his son came and said we needed more love and kindness, that grace and faith would get us through to home and of course we have the choice to do what we want. I believe many took that literally and have turn things around to fit their agenda. Trust me his agenda should be our agenda and we should follow it as much as we can. He gave us the rules to obey, not to do with them as we want. I do believe he is all those things above and maybe more. Trust in God, I do and you will get to thank him later. In God's Grace John
I just finished reading the Pentateuch and God sure does demand blood. Jesus is the lamb who was slain before the foundations of the world. Laytham and Daniel Bell are talking about a particular theory of the atonement that is very popular among non-evangelical, more liberal theologians uncomfortable with the cross and dedicated to non-violence.

Evangelical Christians pretty much hold to the Substitutionary Penalty of the atonement (Jesus bore our penalty in our place). The Ransom theory (Christ ransomed us from Satan) and the Governmental theory (God’s moral order must be upheld) are closely related to the substitutionary theory. But a theory has become very popular among those who are uneasy with the blood sacrifices of the old testament and the judgement for sinners in the New Testament. This is called the Moral Influence theory. Daniel Bell holds that there is no redemption in the sacrifice of the blood of Christ. The heart of Bell’s argument is his explanation of how “Christ’s work on the cross is nothing less than the divine refusal of blood sacrifice, as well as any notion that suffering violence is or can be redemptive.”

Sounds interesting but it definitely is not Biblical. You would have to disregard most of the Old testament, Pauls writings, Peter’s writing, the Apostle John and the writer of Hebrews. I suppose you could hang on to the beatitudes. But then of course even Jesus talked about he that “eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

"For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake." 1st Peter 1:19

"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death." Revelation 12:11

Hebrews 9:11 "When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation. He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. In the same way, he sprinkled with the blood both the tabernacle and everything used in its ceremonies. In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."
"So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."

"God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross."

See the latest in:

Promotion

promo 1 promo 2
promo 3 promo 4

Donate Now