Religulous

Bill Maher has a new documentary coming out called Religulous. Here's the trailer:

The only commentary I'll offer is that I'd be surprised if Bill actually talked to anyone who might prove him wrong or challenge his assumptions. It seems to me that he's managed to round up everybody on the fringe of religion and make wild claims on the whole shebang.

Anyway...

A note on the title from Wikipedia, "the title of the film is a portmanteau derived from the words 'religion' and 'ridiculous,' implying the satirical nature of the documentary that is meant to mock the concept of organized religion and the problems it brings about."

Check out the disbeliefnet.com site for more.

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To Maher: so, what? I would be the first to admit that much of contemporary Christianity, and Christian history, falls prey to Sturgeon's Law.
Two questions, though:
1) What do you have to say to the Christ of the Gospels, as you read them for yourself, and
2) If not Christ, then what? Are you, Maher, just peddling more post-modern compost, as explored by Evan Sayet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
For those of you who do not want to spend the time watching this video, let me sum it up:

America is amazing, ergo America is amazing.

p.s. liberals hate America because they question the usefulness of this logic.
Careful, you might raise the righteous ire of folks that care about this sort of dismissible garbage. Bill Maher has never done anything worthwhile, and this won't be the first thing. Whether it's "foolishness for Christ" or just plain foolishness, the world isn't ever going to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. So instead of clamoring for a "fair and balanced" response (blech) to what you might see as a slight against your faith, live your life in a manner worthy of the calling to which you were called. The rest will follow. (Oh, and laugh a little. Some of those people are straight kooks. :-D)
Goodness, yes, probably most of the people he talked to for this movie are crazy. Laughable even.

I would disagree with your statement that Maher has never done anything worthwhile. As silly as it was sometimes, Politically Incorrect routinely put people of wildly varied worldviews together. It was definitely interesting.
Let's start with Santa Claus. Although there are antecedents, such as the Dutch "Sinter Klaas" which trace back to St. Peter, and the English "Father Christmas," the modern conception of Santa Claus, including the sleigh, reindeer, life at the North Pole, coming down chimneys to bring presents, was all invented in the 1840s by a committee of New York businessmen who wanted to drum up sales for the holidays. They commissioned that poem "A Visit From St. Nicholas." So Santa Claus doesn't even qualify as a myth or legend, just a short story. No comparison to Jesus.

As a rational skeptic who believes in God, I am a little tired of these repetitious attempts at "humor" delving into whether any or selected or all religious beliefs are true or valid. The bottom line is, IF there is an omnipotent God who created the universe, then that God is outside space, time and matter, so there is no rational test. Personal experience may lead an individual to accept that such a God exists. Mine has, in a very quiet and subtle way. Maher's little comedy makes as much sense to me as Missouri and Wisconsin Synod Lutherans calling each other names. Now I could explain, seriously, why I am not a Roman Catholic, nor a Mormon, nor a Lutheran, Muslim, Buddhist, why I am not Jewish, why I am not a member of the Southern Baptist Convention... but I don't laugh at those who are. The best jokes about religion are told by believers, not by disbelievers. Remember all those great jokes Catholic kids told about priests and nuns and the rituals of their church? Who else could have told them so authentically? Maher falls flat, because he is laughing at what he doesn't know.
People believe some weird stuff and I'll admit some it made me laugh. Actually it's heartbreaking. We want an authenic God. Too many people mistake God for those who claim to speak for him. So many people have been disappointed by religious leaders that some have become cynical...and some have turned to the ridiculous because the truth has become shrouded in the mundane or been overshadowed by scandal. In spite of human failing God responds to those who seek him in spirit and in truth, unfortunately Maher avoids dealing with these.

Then the Lord said, “These prophets are telling lies in my name. I did not send them or tell them to speak. I did not give them any messages. They prophesy of visions and revelations they have never seen or heard. They speak foolishness made up in their own lying hearts. - Jeremiah 14:14
Bill interviewed Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor (D), who, when pressed about believing in talking snakes in the garden of Eden replied, "You don't have to pass an IQ test to be in the senate." Would you consider this Democratic US senator to be on the fringe of religion based on his stated beliefs in the widely available online video snippet?
A number of points here;

I agree with what you say, and if he (Bill) did interview anybody that could give anything close to a level headed answer to the reality of faith in Christ, then they won't be included any more than Microsoft would have included into the Mojave website footage of people who didn't like the 'new' platform :-)

Maybe someone should only interview hard-line communist dictators to get a view of what 'all' atheists are like?

Regarding the attitude of people like Bill Maher, we need to remember that this is precisely the kind of attitude that we can expect. The gospel is utter foolishness to people who don't 'get' it, and if we could look at the Gospel through his uninformed eyes, we'd agree. The idea that believing in a dying man who came back from the dead can wash us of all that's wrong with us is absolute crazy-thinking... 1Cor 1:23, but that's what I love about the Gospel, it bypasses the intellectuals and the great and the noble and saves the meek, the lowly, the so-called 'stupid'.

And if being stupid means that I've been blessed with the love of Jesus and His salvation and His life and His right-ness, then call me all the stupids under the sun.
You are willing to use reason and rationality in order to comprehend the string of letters that make up the Bible. Yet once you have acquired the knowledge in the book you abandon all further use of those tools. And then you say that's ok because the thing you just read said it was ok.

Does that make sense? (But even asking that is outside of the rules--it is what the "intellectuals" would ask--and your religion is for the meek.)
Is it just me, or has atheism become more hysterical than it used to be? I seem to remember a time when you could have a rational discussion about whether or not God exists. But now we get schlock like "God is not great: how religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens or "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. I heard that Prof. Dawkins went into a high school science class and spent an hour telling them why they should not believe in God, and then challenging anyone who still believed to a debate, as if any 14 year old was actually going to take him up on it. And now this. Not that it surprises me that Bill Maher is not a believer, but why spend all of the time and money to actually make a movie about it if he really thinks it's so "religulous"? I really wonder what's going on.

As far as this movie goes, I think the history of pop culture shows that blasphemy sells. You've got Madonna, Prince, even Michael Jackson who were happy to assume divine attributes to boost their show business careers (Michael Jackson once told fans at a concert "I would die for you" and at one time was worshiped in certain JW circles as the "Archangel Michael.") What better way to sell tickets then by launching an attack on organized religion? Too bad Mr. Maher values his immortal soul less than a big payout at the box office.
Maybe he is standing up because non-believers have, for so long, been pushed down.

We are not talking racism, sexism, or homophobia; but this country does have a history of anti-atheist, populist witch-hunts. And it continues today where even subtle things, like prayer in congress and "God" in presidential speeches, makes it clear that there is an in-group, and an out-group. And it isn't the atheist that are this country's in-group.

Now I know you all believe that this country is run by atheists and the anti-god-left-liberal media. Maybe you are right. But just check out a poll or two. This country is overwhelmingly religious (on the level of Iran), even if they aren't all your particular brand of Christian. And these are the people Maher is talking about. The voters. The populists. The people who guide our foreign policy on the basis of what they read in a book of dubious origins drafted 2000 years ago and revised innumerable times in the duration. Those are the people he wants to stand up against and say, STOP, listen to reason, and please--for once--doubt yourself.


I'm quite sure ridicule has never been successful or convincingly employed in philosophical debate but that's obviously not what this film is about. On the other hand, ridicule is the method that first springs to my own mind when I am asked to prove something I take to be self-evident (like the existence of an external reality or free choice). I just wonder why God's non-existence is so self-evident to atheists... are they really that shallow? Merely confused?
Christians should welcome productions such as this - they are so easy to dissect and show how stupid some of the opponents of Christianity are. After all, the responses "The DaVinci Code", "The God Delusion", and "Letters To a Christian Nation" et al put sloppy thinking under scrutiny and left many of their arguments the refuge of the stupid and ignorant.

Bring it on.

J
I did a little homework and found out that the Disbeliefnet.com website is actually owned by LionsGate Entertainment, the makers of Bill Maher's movie.
I also have a question. Why do nonbelievers spend so much time, energy and money to disprove something they feel is no more than a fairytale?

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