What beliefs define a true Christian?

The Atheist vs. Believer debate spectacles (and accompanying books) that have captured national attention over the last few years have been interesting, but I much prefer the more subdued type of religious debate: polite, reasoned point/counterpoint essays, in this case about the question of whether or not Mormonism should be considered Christian.

Those two essays (one arguing that Mormonism is Christianity, the other dissenting) are well worth reading—and I'd love to hear which of the two approaches you find most convincing. (I know we've got some Mormon readers out there; please share your thoughts!) But what's stuck with me about this polite little debate is actually the unexpected approach the Mormon apologist takes. Rather than trying to prove to Protestant critics that the various unique tenets of Mormonism are true or compatible with traditional Christianity, he instead takes a different route:

Are Mormons Christian? By self-definition and self-identity, unquestionably so. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints affirms that it is a Christian-faith denomination, a body of believers who worship Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and who witness that salvation is possible only by his atoning blood and grace. By the simple dictionary definition of a Christian as one who believes in or worships Jesus Christ, the case is compelling. To the title Christian a critic of Mormonism may add any modifiers he deems appropriate—unorthodox, heretical, non-Nicene, different—but blanket assertions that we are not Christian are a poor substitute for informed argument and dialogue.

In other words: the Mormon faith may or may not contain errors and unbiblical doctrines, but ultimately it must be considered Christian because it advocates a belief in the saving grace of Jesus Christ, a core doctrine of such importance that anything beyond that belief, orthodox or heretical, is ultimately irrelevant.

What's your immediate reaction to that?

It got me thinking about how I define what is and isn't Christian. (Mandatory disclaimer: obviously God is the only one who decides who is and isn't a true Christian. But the question is important for us to consider because, among other things, it makes a difference whether evangelicals approach Mormons as fellow Christians who believe in some unorthodox doctrines, or as followers of a completely separate faith.)

Is belief in the core Gospel message—that Jesus Christ died to save us from our sin—enough to trump all other errors and mistaken ideas, or are there doctrines outside the basic Gospel message important enough that you can't be a Christian without believing them?

Many of us might point to the Apostles' Creed, Nicene Creed, or similar documents if we were asked to clarify what beliefs define Christianity. But are all of the beliefs listed in those widely-embraced creeds necessary to be a Christian? Which, if any, of those beliefs could you discard as "optional," and which are non-negotiable? Could you accept everything in those creeds, and also believe something else that negates your professed Christian faith?

How do you approach this question? How does your church approach it? Where do you ultimately draw the line between "Christian" and "not Christian"?

Completely unrelated side note: the version of the Nicene Creed that I learned growing up included the phrase "...who spake by the prophets." Nowhere else have I ever encountered "spake" as the past tense of "to speak," but the grammar geek in me always loved that.

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I asked my students in my "Heresy" class a similar question today, after we looked at some Gnostic texts that definitely had some features they found odd, but which also included praises offered to God/Jesus for the wonderful salvation they had experienced, with all the exhuberance of a CCM praise song (and even some of the language one might expect to find in one). How might one approaching Gnostic texts from the perspective of what became orthodoxy assess whether these Gnostics had a genuine experience of salvation, and thus whether their different views even on some potentially important theological points are nonetheless perhaps ultimately "non-essentials"?
"By the simple dictionary definition of a Christian as one who believes in or worships Jesus Christ, the case is compelling. "

I see the attempt at logic in this statement but what sticks out to me is the question, "Which dictionary are we using and which Jesus are we talking about?" The Jesus of the Bible is not the Jesus of Mormonism.

It wasn't until dialoguing over an entire summer with a group of Mormon missionaries that we were able to name the disconnect we had always experienced when talking about Christ and Christianity.

Once we got on the same page as to the DEFINITION of Jesus (me, using the Bible, they using the Book of Mormon) were we able to see that while we both believe in the saving grace of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins, we had COMPLETELY different definitions of WHO and WHAT Jesus was to each of us.

It was VERY eye opening and has served to bypass the all too often rabbit trails Christians and Mormons find themselves caught in. That being said, the logic of trying to argue "apples and oranges" as one in the same does not compute.

"Are Mormons Christian? By self-definition and self-identity, unquestionably so." — Mormon apologist

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." — Jesus

In other words, saying it doesn't necessarily make it so. However, that's not really what you asked. :-)

Being a Christian means following Christ, being conformed daily to His image through the power of the Holy Spirit. So then, the question becomes, "Is the group that claims to be Christian really following Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible?" I'm convinced that the LDS does not, that they follow a false god in His place.

So then, believing the right thing is tricky. It's less about the checklist — "Well, you believe 8 of the 15 bullet points, so you're in!" — and more about the object of one's faith. Saying "I believe in Jesus as my Lord and Savior" but having the wrong Jesus isn't going to cut it. Saying "God has forgiven my sins" but having the wrong God isn't going to cut it.

We ultimately don't need creeds or checklists, though. We simply need the Bible, nothing more, nothing less. Does the Bible affirm or condemn the group's view of Christ? (This becomes simpler than answer the more open-ended question, "Is the group's view of Christ a Christian view?") Believing that Jesus is A son of God (as opposed to THE Son of God), the LDS clearly fails this test. Does the group believe that the Bible is the sole and ultimate authority, the unique word of God? Believing that the other testimonies given to Joseph Smith were God-inspired, the LDS clearly fails this test. And so on.

So while I'm not smart enough to be able to "clarify what beliefs define Christianity", I'm a little better at recognizing those beliefs that are incompatible with Christianity. Maybe I could work backwards and come up with my list of non-negotiables... :-)
>What’s your immediate reaction to that?

Membership in a Baptist church.
It all depends on your definition of Christian of course. The Bible offers no explicit definition because the term 'Christian' was not used at the time so each denomination may take a certain verse and say they meet that criterion. However the NT lays a very strong focus on being "in Christ" though and this is, I think, not a tangible quality. Ultimately we stand alone before God and the question is going to be: does he count my worth or Christ's worth in my judgement?

A word to belief: a belief is not what you suppose, assume or assent to - it's your deep-seated impression of reality which you can hardly choose. If Christ is real for you then you believe in Him.
Marc, your description of belief seems dead on. And your point about "Christian" not being part of the New Testament is useful. It bothers me when we assume we know what it is to be a believer in or follower of Jesus. I don't think we can know, not definitively. We don't know the exact words Jesus spoke, and we might be taking his words out of context. And Jesus didn't speak English. We're relying on translators to interpret and convey his words and meaning, and that doesn't always happen cleanly.
I like the idea of Christianity being an exploration of the life and teaching of Jesus, not a definitive set of commands or tenets. After all, Jesus is reported to have said eccentric things like "Let the dead bury the dead" and to have encouraged followers to deny their parents. I think it's unfair to say anyone knows how to be a Christian completely.
I think if we claim we know who is and is not a Christian, we limit and divide instead of reaching out, and Jesus was all about reaching out.
Hey Chris, I'm with you up to a certain point. I agree we don't know for 100% which words were used and besides we need to get the meaning which is at least 2 layers of interpretation away from us (ours and the authors). To be 100% certain of meaning we need to know Jesus personally which is a process or an "exploration" if you will; but, it's not a detached exploration of the "life and teaching of Jesus" which sounds rather impersonal, something even an atheist can do, but rather our relationship is developed and we explore depths of and with God.

As to who is and is not a Christian, was it not Doug Fields who said something like: we should stop telling folks they are saved and tell them how to get saved. Amen!
I think the Mormon has it right on this one. Most people look at this question in the wrong context. Mormons are Christian. They believe in the saving blood of Christ. They just believe in a different way of attaining it. The question is, does God call us to be Christians, or he more concerned with our salvation?

Because people can be afraid to judge on the basis of salvation, the theology of a group is called into question instead. So, while Mormons may be Christian, they may not be saved... and that is what the debate is truly about.

One last thing to consider; How does the secular or non-christian world look at this debate? Probably somewhat like we may have seen the conflict between Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda. They are all Rwandan, but fighting over subtitles. Granted, that conflict resulted in much more violence among the people, but the argument is the same.
Biggest problem is with the OT and NT there are historical artifacts and (in-church/out-church) support for what is written in God's Word. The same cannot be said for the Revelation to Joseph Smith. The Morons have tried and would so love to find People and Locations identified in their holy writ. In short OT and NT represent the infallibility of God's word to couple that with apocrypha lays poor footing for apologetics. As much as you're saying "believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord and profess it with your mouth and you are saved" it is critical to identify what is edifying to the body - Mar 13:6 "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many. " and Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
"The *Morons* have tried and would so love..."

Freudian slip?
I have known & been friends with many quite intelligent Mormons, and they are definitely not morons.

JHurshman, & DonS,
Right on.
This is a difficult question indeed. I don't think that "being a Christian" is a matter of the correct beliefs. Otherwise, as James 2.19 says, Satan and company would be "Christians", since they presumably believe all the relevant doctrines.

Being a Christian is a matter of trusting allegiance. This is why "Jesus is Lord" was the first "creed" of the Church. Trusting implies belief, but it's "belief in", not "belief about".

And this is what makes the question so hard to answer. Ultimately, of course, like Abraham, we must just say "Will not the judge of all the earth do right?"

However, I think the more distorted the view of who Jesus is, the less possible it becomes to exhibit this trusting allegiance, because the object of that allegiance is less like the actual Jesus.

To the specific point: can Mormons be said to subscribe to the gospel of the Lordship of Jesus when the meaning they attribute to those words is so different from what the NT writers meant?

How's that for a non-answer?

As of yet, no one has posted mention of the "fundamentals" as established by some scholars around the turn of the 20th century. Even most people who consider themselves "fundamenalist" today cannot recite these basic tenets:

--The authority (infallibility, inerrancy, whatever) of Scripture as the sole basis for our understanding of God and salvation,
--The virgin birth and full deity of Jesus Christ,
--Christ's substitutionary atonement on the cross (salvation by grace alone, not of works),
--His physical resurrection after the crucifixion,
--His eventual physical second coming (regardless of when in relation to other end times events).

Without these basics, true Christianity is impossible. With these basics recognized, there can be respect and fellowship among those with different views on other things.

How do the Mormons (or any other group claiming to be "Christian") measure up to the fundamentals?
There are Christian denominations separated by as many differences between themselves as are Mormons with various Christian denominations. Without "Don's Basics" Don could not consider himself a Christian. There is no universally accepted authority that these are essential to ANYONE calling their own self a Christian, because, as others have pointed out, the original followers of Jesus did not call themselves Christian, and for some generations afterward, there were no church councils and creeds trying to DEFINE Christianity. A friend of Thomas Jefferson wrote that anyone who accepted that "Jesus is the Messiah" is a Christian. Personally, I believe that anyone who accepts what Jesus himself said were the two commandments on which hangs "all the law and the prophets" is a Christian, whether or not they believe in the physical, historical, truth of virgin birth, incarnation, or even resurrection. But many would disagree. I'm not sure it matters whether I consider Mormons to be Christian or not. I do not personally accept the authenticity or the authority of the Book of Mormon, I respect their right to accept it for themselves. I do not deny them the name "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints," which is their self-description. I do find that Mormons post commentary which is edifying to some of my own favorite heresies -- I have on bookmarked which reviews Pelagius with admiration. Some Christians would exclude both me and Mormons from fellowship for that very reason -- but I don't claim membership in the church those Christians belong to.

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