The Atheist vs. Believer debate spectacles (and accompanying books) that have captured national attention over the last few years have been interesting, but I much prefer the more subdued type of religious debate: polite, reasoned point/counterpoint essays, in this case about the question of whether or not Mormonism should be considered Christian.
Those two essays (one arguing that Mormonism is Christianity, the other dissenting) are well worth reading—and I'd love to hear which of the two approaches you find most convincing. (I know we've got some Mormon readers out there; please share your thoughts!) But what's stuck with me about this polite little debate is actually the unexpected approach the Mormon apologist takes. Rather than trying to prove to Protestant critics that the various unique tenets of Mormonism are true or compatible with traditional Christianity, he instead takes a different route:
Are Mormons Christian? By self-definition and self-identity, unquestionably so. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints affirms that it is a Christian-faith denomination, a body of believers who worship Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and who witness that salvation is possible only by his atoning blood and grace. By the simple dictionary definition of a Christian as one who believes in or worships Jesus Christ, the case is compelling. To the title Christian a critic of Mormonism may add any modifiers he deems appropriate—unorthodox, heretical, non-Nicene, different—but blanket assertions that we are not Christian are a poor substitute for informed argument and dialogue.
In other words: the Mormon faith may or may not contain errors and unbiblical doctrines, but ultimately it must be considered Christian because it advocates a belief in the saving grace of Jesus Christ, a core doctrine of such importance that anything beyond that belief, orthodox or heretical, is ultimately irrelevant.
What's your immediate reaction to that?
It got me thinking about how I define what is and isn't Christian. (Mandatory disclaimer: obviously God is the only one who decides who is and isn't a true Christian. But the question is important for us to consider because, among other things, it makes a difference whether evangelicals approach Mormons as fellow Christians who believe in some unorthodox doctrines, or as followers of a completely separate faith.)
Is belief in the core Gospel message—that Jesus Christ died to save us from our sin—enough to trump all other errors and mistaken ideas, or are there doctrines outside the basic Gospel message important enough that you can't be a Christian without believing them?
Many of us might point to the Apostles' Creed, Nicene Creed, or similar documents if we were asked to clarify what beliefs define Christianity. But are all of the beliefs listed in those widely-embraced creeds necessary to be a Christian? Which, if any, of those beliefs could you discard as "optional," and which are non-negotiable? Could you accept everything in those creeds, and also believe something else that negates your professed Christian faith?
How do you approach this question? How does your church approach it? Where do you ultimately draw the line between "Christian" and "not Christian"?
Completely unrelated side note: the version of the Nicene Creed that I learned growing up included the phrase "...who spake by the prophets." Nowhere else have I ever encountered "spake" as the past tense of "to speak," but the grammar geek in me always loved that.





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I see the attempt at logic in this statement but what sticks out to me is the question, "Which dictionary are we using and which Jesus are we talking about?" The Jesus of the Bible is not the Jesus of Mormonism.
It wasn't until dialoguing over an entire summer with a group of Mormon missionaries that we were able to name the disconnect we had always experienced when talking about Christ and Christianity.
Once we got on the same page as to the DEFINITION of Jesus (me, using the Bible, they using the Book of Mormon) were we able to see that while we both believe in the saving grace of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins, we had COMPLETELY different definitions of WHO and WHAT Jesus was to each of us.
It was VERY eye opening and has served to bypass the all too often rabbit trails Christians and Mormons find themselves caught in. That being said, the logic of trying to argue "apples and oranges" as one in the same does not compute.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." — Jesus
In other words, saying it doesn't necessarily make it so. However, that's not really what you asked. :-)
Being a Christian means following Christ, being conformed daily to His image through the power of the Holy Spirit. So then, the question becomes, "Is the group that claims to be Christian really following Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible?" I'm convinced that the LDS does not, that they follow a false god in His place.
So then, believing the right thing is tricky. It's less about the checklist — "Well, you believe 8 of the 15 bullet points, so you're in!" — and more about the object of one's faith. Saying "I believe in Jesus as my Lord and Savior" but having the wrong Jesus isn't going to cut it. Saying "God has forgiven my sins" but having the wrong God isn't going to cut it.
We ultimately don't need creeds or checklists, though. We simply need the Bible, nothing more, nothing less. Does the Bible affirm or condemn the group's view of Christ? (This becomes simpler than answer the more open-ended question, "Is the group's view of Christ a Christian view?") Believing that Jesus is A son of God (as opposed to THE Son of God), the LDS clearly fails this test. Does the group believe that the Bible is the sole and ultimate authority, the unique word of God? Believing that the other testimonies given to Joseph Smith were God-inspired, the LDS clearly fails this test. And so on.
So while I'm not smart enough to be able to "clarify what beliefs define Christianity", I'm a little better at recognizing those beliefs that are incompatible with Christianity. Maybe I could work backwards and come up with my list of non-negotiables... :-)
Membership in a Baptist church.
A word to belief: a belief is not what you suppose, assume or assent to - it's your deep-seated impression of reality which you can hardly choose. If Christ is real for you then you believe in Him.
I like the idea of Christianity being an exploration of the life and teaching of Jesus, not a definitive set of commands or tenets. After all, Jesus is reported to have said eccentric things like "Let the dead bury the dead" and to have encouraged followers to deny their parents. I think it's unfair to say anyone knows how to be a Christian completely.
I think if we claim we know who is and is not a Christian, we limit and divide instead of reaching out, and Jesus was all about reaching out.
As to who is and is not a Christian, was it not Doug Fields who said something like: we should stop telling folks they are saved and tell them how to get saved. Amen!
Because people can be afraid to judge on the basis of salvation, the theology of a group is called into question instead. So, while Mormons may be Christian, they may not be saved... and that is what the debate is truly about.
One last thing to consider; How does the secular or non-christian world look at this debate? Probably somewhat like we may have seen the conflict between Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda. They are all Rwandan, but fighting over subtitles. Granted, that conflict resulted in much more violence among the people, but the argument is the same.
Freudian slip?
JHurshman, & DonS,
Right on.
Being a Christian is a matter of trusting allegiance. This is why "Jesus is Lord" was the first "creed" of the Church. Trusting implies belief, but it's "belief in", not "belief about".
And this is what makes the question so hard to answer. Ultimately, of course, like Abraham, we must just say "Will not the judge of all the earth do right?"
However, I think the more distorted the view of who Jesus is, the less possible it becomes to exhibit this trusting allegiance, because the object of that allegiance is less like the actual Jesus.
To the specific point: can Mormons be said to subscribe to the gospel of the Lordship of Jesus when the meaning they attribute to those words is so different from what the NT writers meant?
How's that for a non-answer?
--The authority (infallibility, inerrancy, whatever) of Scripture as the sole basis for our understanding of God and salvation,
--The virgin birth and full deity of Jesus Christ,
--Christ's substitutionary atonement on the cross (salvation by grace alone, not of works),
--His physical resurrection after the crucifixion,
--His eventual physical second coming (regardless of when in relation to other end times events).
Without these basics, true Christianity is impossible. With these basics recognized, there can be respect and fellowship among those with different views on other things.
How do the Mormons (or any other group claiming to be "Christian") measure up to the fundamentals?